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Borrowers3V          Oliver twist, that sort of thing – that was the period of dress and all that, and the barges, the people that worked on the barges and all that…

There’s a few people out there that don’t want to get involved because they think they’re going off their heads – that’s the trouble. You know, some people’ll talk about it and some people won’t. That’s just one of those things. Because when it happens to you, you think to yourself ‘I’m going off my head’, you know? – when I tell people about it they think I’m crackers, so you don’t tell them about it, you don’t say anything – that’s the trouble.

But the places – it’s all places I sort of know. We was away last weekend and where we go is all to do with what I saw, or what went on in my head. Because the railway and the river run alongside eachother…

M         There’s a little village there, and they’ve got the river running through the village and there’s all the barges that are moored along the side…

V          …and that all comes into play. When I go down there – ‘now,  was I dreaming it, or what was happening to me?’

But I can still see the people – the little people on these barges… You don’t know whether you’re dreaming it, whether you’re thinking it, or what you’re actually doing…

M         I think he went back to his childhood in that sleep, I think – somehow, while he was in that coma, I think he went – he wasn’t forward, he went backwards – like the steam engines, that’s all ages ago, isn’t it? That’s in his past, and the fairies and things like that, I think it’s come from his past and that. But he was such a long time not being able to speak because of the tube that was down him…

V          That was the worst part of it –

M         …that he couldn’t express his feelings to you, or tell you about it, but as soon as he could speak – cause it was quite a time before he could speak, I think it was nearly, what, 10 days, before he had tubes out and things? – he said that he could see these fairies, going round the lights, and they were coming to see him, and things like that…

V          These silly little people, flying about

M         Mixed up in it was that we were coming up by train. That’s another thing; he knew we were coming up by train…

V          They were Victorian, and they – they wasn’t modern dress. They were country people; and they were, you know, little people, they were – they just flipped about. They used to flit round the lights, and they used to go from light to light and that, and they used to …in the end I just let them play sort of thing. It was weird. They sort of gives you hope that there’s someone out there who’s looking after you. During the day there was the nurses to look after you, but at night you was on your own, and these sort of – they looked after you during the night. I can still see em as clear as anything, but they’re just in my head now. They’ve just got planted in my head, and I just sort of lets them go – that’s all I can do.

M         It must be very weird for people who have horror dreams, horror hallucinations; it must be awful for them…

V          Yeah that was the thing, mine wasn’t horror, they was just…

M         …Friendly

V          …Yeah, I was just lonely. They sort of cheered me up…

M         Well, because we couldn’t get up there every day …but in the ICU unit, well as I say he couldn’t speak because he had the tubes down his throat.

V          oh yeah, yeah – talking to my sons and that and trying to –

M         Frustrating

V          Frustrating, ever so. That was the bit that was the killer, I – they used to come up to see me and I, because I couldn’t talk – they could talk to me, but I couldn’t talk to them, so I was telling them not to stay, to go, and go out and have a walk round and things like that and they were saying ‘no, no, we’ve come up to see you’…

M        D’you think that’s why people have hallucinations, because they’re so stressed out?

M         It was only while he was in the unit up in London that he was visited by the fairies… Just that period of that time –

V          I think it’s because M’s here; they don’t need to – my brain tells me that I don’t need ’em; they’ve got someone else to look after. I’ve got somebody, you know? And it’s a weird thing – even to talk about it is weird, yeah, but they all reckon I’m weird in any case, so – just one of those things, yeah…

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